- Jensen about the relationship Dean shares with Benny and how it causes problems between Sam and Dean (x)
I can’t even begin to tell you how excited I am to learn more about the relationship Dean and Benny formed and how Cas fits into the picture and then how Sam will react to it as well. But in general I am just so very very excited about Dean’s story and his mindset this year. Can’t wait for 8x02. :)
This makes me jealous on Cas’ behalf. Yeah, I’ve seen people bitch and say “oh, Dean can have other friends!”, but that’s not the point. Of course he can have other friends, it adds to his character growth. It’s just that Cas was special in that he touched Dean’s heart in a way no one else had and Cas was an exception and a surprise to Dean. Now we have Benny and it’s sort of too similar and I feel like it’s taking away from Dean and Cas. You can’t blame me for feeling this way, Dean/Cas is my OTP/Life.
I love seeing this side of Castiel, it’s a side we rarely see. How he acts when he’s alone and to have an insight into what he’s thinking about. How he failed to cover all bases and protect Dean when he promised he would. He’s just beating himself up. Castiel always felt, he always cared too much.
Xena was a bad warlord and she killed many people, (40,000!!!), but in a kinda ‘My Name is Earl’ move she decides to stop her wicked ways and quit the warrior gig to seek redemption for her sins by saving the innocent. As Xena is burying her armour she sees a group of girls being sold as slaves by fiendish foes! One of those girls is Gabrielle, a farm maid snatched up from her home town. Xena saves her life and leaves Gabrielle in awe of her swag and she begs Xena to let her accompany her. Xena begrudgingly agrees and thus they become unlikely friends (sound familiar?). Over time Xena teaches Gabrielle how to fend for herself in the harsh and very dangerous world they live in which is full of supernatural beings, basically Gabby becomes BAMF. Gabrielle in turn teaches Xena how to be…well, nicer? Less rough around the edges. She gets her to open up more and feel feelings…(How many times can I say sounds familiar?)
Xena and Gabrielle become best friends and soon they are the most important people to each other…they’re all they have. They protect each other and will do anything to ensure their safety. Xena’s life has had many tragedies. Her son was killed and she nearly loses Gabrielle more than once. She and Gabrielle lose many friends in their battles to stop evil. I feel like Dean can REALLY relate to this, as well as Cas and the gang.
Side Note: They die a bunch of times and come back to life, just like Team Free Will, LOL!
So, why is Xena and Gabrielle’s relationship similar to Dean and Castiels? Well, besides all the above similarities, Xena and Gabrielle sleep with various different men during the airing of the show (they have serious relationships with men, even more involved than the Ben and Lisa façade), however, in the end all they really ever wanted was each other. They were best friends, like sisters…but they were also in love. None of this was outwardly confirmed in canon until the end of the show basically. Everything about Xena and Gabrielles relationship was in SUBTEXT. From hinting, to jokes or looks. Basically everything, EVERYTHING, that Dean and Castiel have done since season 4. I’m serious guys, the subtext between Xena and Gabrielle was no more than the subtext of Dean and Castiel. Back then the pairing had the same problems we have, however, it was in the 90’s/early 2000’s and it’s kinda sad people haven’t moved on since then… but anyway, people said stuff like, “no they’re just friends!”, “Gabrielle is like a sister to her!”, yes, these statements are true but she was also so much more. To me, Dean and Castiel is romantic and that is real, not some shipping tumblr thing. I thought so before I even found out people ‘shipped’ it. I feel like Xena/Gabrielle fans really get this because back then, they didn’t have such a big influence on the internet, yet people were so touched by their relationship, fans supported it so much and so fearlessly, even for the 90’s when gay/lesbian couples had it much harder. There was still a whole bunch of fan fiction though ;)…
Read More is now very necessary…
I think part of why it was good was because Castiel and Bobby were in it, that’s how I like it.
SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT*
The episode did feel rushed though, just like every episode with any actual plot content this season. I don’t understand why they made so much filler and then rushed the stuff we actually wanted to know about. It was so interesting and they could’ve told us more and did a better job. Guess we’ll just have to hope Carver can give us a better season 8.
Ya know, I didn’t even really watch most of this season. Some I watched, some I skipped through and some I just read the spoilers for afterwards. It is definitely the lamest season on record. But I digress…
It was a good episode because it focused on plot and I like plot…beyond that I’ve nothing really to say. I sorta need my passionate love for this show to be rekindled next season.
P.S. I do love, love that Dean and Cas are in Purgatory and I hope they take a good few episodes next season to explore that and the environment in Purgatory and the different beasts. That is what is REALLY interesting to me and I felt like in season 6 and 7 they built up what could’ve been interesting stories (Eve, Godstiel etc) and then just used a quick plot device to make it go away, so I hope this isn’t once again the case.
I feel like when Cas first points at Dean, he thinks Cas is going to say something like “You did this to me. This is your fault”. He just looks so guilty and afraid of what he’s about to hear. It honestly looks like his world is cracking underneath him, look at him!
I was thinking today actually, if I had a choice - why would I choose to ship Dean/Cas, it’s so fucking depressing and there’s a 99.9% chance they’ll never really get together or blatantly express how they feel to each other. So why am I bothering when there are loads of “canon” couples out there to ship? Though, I think it’s that you can’t just put two people together on screen and say; ‘ok, they’re in love’. It comes from something deeper than that, they have to be compelling and have a certain chemistry and je ne se qua. I could watch any show, but let’s pick one with two men, like Queer as Folk, I could watch that and see many canon couples but they just aren’t interesting and they don’t touch my heart, Dean and Castiel do.
Bobby’s face in that last gif makes me want to crawl up in a ball and sob for days.
Dean Winchester, ladies and gentlemen. He knows exactly the thing to say that will cut you to your core, and he’ll say it to your face if he’s feeling low enough. He said this shit to Bobby. He said “Don’t ever come back” to Sam. Yes, he is kind of a little shit.
That’s what happened with Cas. Dean was beyond hurt when he found out that Cas had lied to him, and he had to get it out of his system. He had to say all the awful things to make Cas understand just how deep that betrayal went. And I think Cas already knew, but Dean had to say it anyway because he’s a jerk.
But here’s the thing. He doesn’t mean it. He says the shittiest thing he can think of in the moment because he wants everyone to feel just as bad as he does for just a second, but in the end these people are family and he will always, always come around and make up for it.
Of course Bobby is his father.
Of course he doesn’t want Sam to stay gone.
The difference is that Cas died before Dean got the chance to calm down and take it all back.
This exactly. And honestly, this is why I have such a problem with the “baby in a trenchcoat” line - Dean has shown himself, over and over, to be very aware emotionally about people that he cares for. He knows what their emotional weaknesses are and what words will hurt most. He would never say anything like this to Bobby, nor anything like he did to Sam either, under normal circumstances. He never mentions Bobby’s lack of blood connection to them, and Sam’s blood adventures only come up in the direst circumstances when they have to be addressed, and Dean’s usually pretty tactful for him about them.
And then Cas - who Dean knows hates feeling human, knows has a complex about his powers, has seen in an even worse position without them (endverse) and what that did to him, and who was already clearly discomfited and irritated about being bereft of them in the first place - Cas admits that Eve is dampening his powers, and Dean’s reaction is to sigh and tell him that he’s nothing but a baby (a helpless, hapless, completely dependent being, ie exactly what Endverse Cas hated so much) to them (reducing cas to nothing more than a useful tool, a ‘hammer’, rather than a thinking being with free will and worth to them outside of that ie exactly what cas is currently warring in heaven to prove he doesn’t have to be) without them. And then has to be told by Sam that Cas is hurt and embarrassed by that.
No. Bullshit. That’s not the Dean I know. That’s not the Dean that the first five seasons of the show showed me. Dean says stupid untactful things, yeah, but he is aware of where the line is, especially with people he cares about. And I don’t care if you ship it or not, it’s canon that Dean cares about Cas, canon that Dean considered him family, and canon that he was Dean’s best friend, however much S6 fell badly into the ‘telling not showing’ trap regarding that. Dean wouldn’t say something that cutting to one of Castiel’s few insecurities in what amounts to nothing more than a hiccup in a hunt. He just wouldn’t.
Don’t forget that in that episode he also made many sarcastic sexual jokes towards Cas - “blow me, Cas”, “Last time someone looked at me like that, I got laid”
Just like with Bobby and Sam, in that episode he was also pushing Castiel’s buttons - What are his buttons? His feelings for Dean. In his despair Dean was mocking Castiel’s feelings for him, to push him away, as with Bobby’s fatherly feelings and Sam’s brotherly. He abused all three of them emotionally at that time.
This is sad in hindsight…it made me think about Dean finally losing it and going around every where thinking he sees or hears Cas, but he’s just delusional and Sam has to look on in horrible and can’t help him. Nothing cures a broken heart. John can testify to that.
Dean is really acting like a child here.
Mom: Don’t worry, Buster’s just lost! We’ll find him!
Child: No, he’s gone forever!
Mom: Don’t be silly, he has to be there somewhere!
Child: No, you don’t know that!
(Lol, Buster is a dog btw)
I think it’s really interesting that when it comes to Cas, Dean just regresses like this.
Um, hey Jensen and Misha? Yeah, we’re going to do that scene where you guys just look at each other for a while. Just — don’t worry about it, it’ll all make sense in a couple seasons. Misha, we just need for you to look at Dean like you’re heart is breaking, and every single second you’re not helping him is like shoving needles in your eyes. Jensen, you look at Misha like if this was a different place and time, you would want nothing more than to grab Castiel’s dirty, stupid trench coat and rip it off his body to see what it’s hidi—- Or, uh. Something like that.
Look, we’re going to play My Heart Will Go On in the background, to set the mood. No, don’t worry, it’s fine. This will all make sense eventually.
Oh, you guys don’t have a problem with playing a gay character, right?
Okay, just making sure.
Glad we’re all on the same page.
And then came season 6 and they ruined everything.
They ruined EVERY SINGLE THINGS and made this beautiful scene look like a JOKE.
I don’t agree. They didn’t ruin it, they just made things more complicated which makes it more compelling. We need bad times to appreciate the good times and to grow and understand each other better. Just because things are difficult between them in season 6 doesn’t mean they love each other any less. I think the end of season 6 shows us just how much they love each other and what a hard time they’re having not being on the same page. In a real and epic romance the two people don’t just get together immediately and live happily ever after, there has to be trials and tribulations, otherwise it’s boring.
Why does true love inspire us? You might as well ask that.
What an exciting thing to think about!
It could happen in many different ways of course. Either we’ll see Cas before the Winchester’s do or we both won’t see it coming and Cas will just be there and Dean will be like :O and Sam and Bobby with be like :o but then look over to see Dean’s reaction. As they always do. I seriously hope the writers don’t screw us on the whole reaction thing - Team Free Will better be shocked and things can’t just go back to normal ten minutes later. This has to especially really affect Dean. So fingers crossed. I’m wondering if the actual Castiel comes back will he be hurt or just his usual self? I’m hoping he’s hurt, as mean as that sounds, I just feel like his magic angel powers heal him so often, this needs to have really affected him. I wonder if the past few months Castiel has been in a type of Hell, or like a slave to the leviathans. What if he was really dead and is somehow brought back from whatever angel after life he was having?
The thing with the leviathans is that it seems a lot like when they get inside a host that that actually does kill them. Like with the little girl who then transformed into the doctor. I feel like she died and the doctor died as soon as the leviathans took them. (I guess that’s obvious with the doctor seeing as they kinda ate him too - in the hospital as it transformed)
It’s actually pretty interesting that they are like shifters in that respect. So yes, I think it’s also quite likely that Castiel was kicked out of Jimmy’s body when it exploded and he was too weak to return to the Winchester’s or too ashamed…but he promised Dean he’d redeem himself so that he will do. It’s probably took him this length of time to recover and then he probably wanted to try and find out some info on the leviathans so as not to return empty handed. I’d simply love it if this whole time he’d been human and has been hunting leviathans.
Ok, oops. I wrote too much, sorry! Thank you for an awesome question :)
EDIT: Oh, I don’t think I even answered the actual question properly! I imagine that Cas will save the Winchester’s when they’re in a jam and they’ll all be shocked and it’ll cut to a commercial break! :)
Sooooo..I’m looking at the thrid gif, where Cas says “he likes past Dean”, except that’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s actually stating that “he LOVES past Dean”.
And now, I shall go throw myself off a building.
Future!Cas: What? I like past you.
Future!Dean: Right whatever. Ok, uh, me? I’ll take you over to Chuck’s, get you sorted out with a rifle.
Past!Dean: [sarcastically] Great.
Future!Dean: But I need to talk to Cas a second. Wait outside.
Past!Dean: Right whatever…[mumbling as he leaves] weirdos…
Dean waits until his past self is fully outside before walking around the table and grabbing Cas, hoisting him up by the lapels.
Cas: Uhh, what the hell!?!
Dean: That Dean hasn’t been through what we have.
Dean: Do you think he’d do this?
Dean pulls Cas closer and kisses him. Cas struggles for a moment but finally gives into the kiss. When the kiss ends Cas sighs and rests against Dean. Dean pushes him away.
Dean: Think about that next time you wanna make me feel like a dick in front of myself.
Dean leaves the cabin. Cas sits down again.
Cas: Dammit, where are my pills?