I think part of why it was good was because Castiel and Bobby were in it, that’s how I like it.

SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT*

• It was quite sad when Bobby finally left, though I’m glad they didn’t drag it out…it kinda was already dragged out. But heck, that’s some amazing fire that can burn a metal flask in seconds. 
• I hated Meg in this season but I gotta say she was awesome in this episode and I really felt for her. Especially the fearful look she displayed when Crowley showed up. 

The episode did feel rushed though, just like every episode with any actual plot content this season. I don’t understand why they made so much filler and then rushed the stuff we actually wanted to know about. It was so interesting and they could’ve told us more and did a better job. Guess we’ll just have to hope Carver can give us a better season 8.

Ya know, I didn’t even really watch most of this season. Some I watched, some I skipped through and some I just read the spoilers for afterwards. It is definitely the lamest season on record. But I digress…

It was a good episode because it focused on plot and I like plot…beyond that I’ve nothing really to say. I sorta need my passionate love for this show to be rekindled next season. 

P.S. I do love, love that Dean and Cas are in Purgatory and I hope they take a good few episodes next season to explore that and the environment in Purgatory and the different beasts. That is what is REALLY interesting to me and I felt like in season 6 and 7 they built up what could’ve been interesting stories (Eve, Godstiel etc) and then just used a quick plot device to make it go away, so I hope this isn’t once again the case. 

thatrulerbythebed:

when future dean is like “i’m not gonna lie to you. we got a pretty messed up situation goin’ on, him and me” or whatever and points at past dean

…he is pointing at past dean right?

i mean that’s the only thing that would make sense in this context

then why does past dean look confused and whirl around to look at cas?

(and cas just stands there quiet like “mmmyup.”)

wouldn’t it be obvious who future dean was talking about?

What I think happened is that future Dean was saying that to the other members of the camp and he and they knew that he was obviously referring to his past self. However, past Dean didn’t realise that and thought he meant between him and Cas. He thought this because it’s something he’s been thinking about since meeting future Cas, he knows something’s not right there and their relationship isn’t the same as before. So, I dunno if it’s because he thinks he finally slept with Cas in the future or just because his relationship with Cas is so bitter and messed up. 

caswouldratherbehere:

Oooh good question. Really good question. And I reserve the right to change my answer, when I remember epic awesome stuff I’m forgetting right now.

I’d say it’s different for each of them.

For Cas, I think it would be when he grabs Dean’s arm in 6.22 and tells him he will make everything up to him. It’s a culmination of everything leading up to it. The fact that Cas is even in the situation he’s in is because of Dean. Deciding to stop another apocalypse was because of Dean. Resinking the Titanic for Dean. Risking exploding himself to save humanity and Dean. Going Crazy God when he didn’t get Dean’s support, and only his fear. The heartbreak on his face when Dean tells Death to kill him. Coming back to Dean and Sam for help after all.

And after all of this, there is only one thing he cares about. Only one thing he wants to say when he damn well knows it might be the last thing he says. And that is that he will make it up to Dean. He doesn’t look to Bobby, he grabs Dean’s arm and holds him in place, looks him in the eye and says, “Please don’t give up on me, I can still be someone you could love.”

Well that’s what I heard anyway.

Maybe I’m stretching with this? I don’t know, there are so many, many moments where the love Castiel feels for Dean is just so painfully obvious, so it’s hard to pick the best.

For Dean though, sadly he has learned to control the emotions he shows much, much better. If we had gotten anything other than two throw away “blame Cas” lines out of him this season, I would say it would be his grieving for Cas that shows it best. But alas, it is still mostly conjecture.

So I’d have to go old school, back to The End. When Dean comes back, the relief we see on him at having his Cas back, the one that isn’t broken and hopeless. The look he gives Cas when he tells him never to change is priceless.

I would say the whole debacle at the end of season six, if I had to pick something for both of them. I swear, the only reason it all went down so poorly was because they both love each other too much, were both too raw, and couldn’t say what they should have been saying. They were fighting like a couple.

(Goes off to wonder if she answered this right.)

Yeah, I definitely agree. I think Castiel’s emotions are like a childs, because he’s so new to them, he doesn’t know how to deal with them. Like when a baby sees its mom, it smiles and loves her, it doesn’t think about why it loves its mom (should I be calling a baby it?) but yeah, my point, Castiel’s emotions are so new to him, it’s taken him a few seasons to fully understand what they mean. I think before it was simple and child like, he just knew he cared for Dean and that he would do anything to ensure Dean’s happiness.

He didn’t understand why, and then as time went on and he thought he might lose Dean’s trust and love he finally seemed to understand that dammit he is completely in love with Dean and he can’t escape it. I say escape because at the end of season 6 his love for Dean was causing him nothing but pain, so it must’ve been interesting to deal with. Loving someone that much and dealing with the heart break of it. I guess it’s kinda like when you’re a teenager and you get your first boyfriend and you think you’re gonna be together forever, you’re kinda deluded and then one day reality comes crashing in and you lose them. 

Sorry, that wasn’t exactly on topic…but yeah. I agree, for Castiel the love was always there he just didn’t fully understand it.

BTW, I think sinking the Titanic for someone is incredibly romantic. Messed up, but very romantic. And I’d question a persons sanity if they tried to claim otherwise. 

I think with regards to Castiel and the things we could discuss about why and how he loves Dean are endless, because they are many and all very obvious. I never feel doubt that Castiel is in love with Dean. It’s Dean I feel is the more complicated one. Though there is still so much on the old Dean side, you just have to understand him and how he works. 

You’re so right that Dean can control his emotions, so well in fact that it’s deleterious to his mental health, he doesn’t express things enough and thus doesn’t get any relief! 

I would also pick the whole craziness at the end of season 6 to show how heavily invested Dean is in Castiel. He was a complete mess when he found out Cas had, from his point of view, cheated on him. He started going crazy and drinking not when Sam’s wall broke but when he found out that nugget of info about Cas. The thing is, people try to argue Dean’s behaviour is all about Sam, and yes, Dean is very upset about Sam’s visions of Lucifer but tbh Sam is doing a lot better emotionally than Dean, he’s working on it, he’s getting over it, getting healthy and dealing with the visions. Sam’s been a lot worse off in the past and Dean’s not turned to drinking and basically being suicidal.

So yes, Dean’s upset about Sam’s visions but let’s get real, it’s the lose of the one person that fully knew him, the good, the bad and the ugly. The person who, for a change, saved him, looked after him and loved him unconditionally. He sunk the freaking Titanic for him. 

caswouldratherbehere:

(This is all based on a chaotic rush of thoughts I had after seeing this gif set.)

So Dean was pushing Cas away in season 6. I’ll let you decide to what degree, but they simply weren’t as close. I usually think of the year break apart as being the main contributor to that. And I’m pretty sure I still do.

But what if, whether consciously or subconsciously, it was also to “protect” Cas? To push Cas away enough he wouldn’t willingly walk into a suicide mission for him. Yes, I know that it then doesn’t make sense that Dean still called on Cas to do stuff for him. But perhaps he thought that by being a little mean, a little pushy, when it came to it the next time around, Cas would draw a line.

So what does Cas do? He signs up to “pop purgatory.” And everything Dean has heard makes this sound like a risky plan, if not a suicide mission. And he’s doing it for Dean. Again.

“No Kelly, he did it to save Earth from the apocalypse.” Yes, random imaginary person, he did. He did it to save Earth from the apocalypse for Dean. That is at least a main factor. I am pretty sure after the Titanic debacle, even Dean can’t deny any longer that in no small way, it always comes back to him. And if Dean can’t deny it any more, then no one should.

I’m thinking this is why Dean was so upset with Cas, it’s why he’s suffering so badly right now. Dean can’t handle how much Castiel will sacrifice for him. And he simply could not endorse a plan that had Castiel doing it again, even though I’m coming to believe it killed him to look at Cas and keep saying no. It even explains why Dean didn’t talk about it, why he looked so torn and guilty and sad and angry all at the same time, but still said nothing. Can you even imagine that conversation? Can you seriously imagine Dean starting it?

And now that Cas is dead (as Dean believes)? He’s blaming himself hard. Yeah, so we’ve said that before, that he probably feels guilty for not stopping Cas sooner or getting through to him. But it’s also because of all this, that Cas did it for him. Again.

This is all the angelic version of Cas making a deal.

So think about all the issues Sam went through when Dean made his deal, and I think that might put us all a step closer to understanding Dean here.

I agree, this is very typically Winchester behaviour! In fact it’s typically Dean behaviour. So, in ‘The End’ Dean found out that because he pushed Sam away, Sam ended up saying yes to Lucifer. When Dean came back he made up with Sam so as they could stay close and he wouldn’t end up running off to Luci. So, now that’s sorted, what is Dean going to do about what happened to Castiel in that future world? In ‘The End’ Castiel and Dean remained close, their relationship was bitter and messed up but they were still all each other had.

I think Dean didn’t know what to do about this for a while but ended up just going with the thing that made the most sense to him, pushing Castiel away. Thing is, as I’ve said before, you can’t stop love. It was too late, clearly, way too late, Castiel already loved Dean and no amount of pushing away or being mean to him was gonna change that. Deep down Dean must’ve known this, but he had no other options really, well, he couldn’t see any. This is because Dean already loved Cas too. He was trying to protect him and I think trying to protect himself too, because it hurt seeing Cas so hapless and devoid of all hope, it also hurt to know it was his fault.

So, in order to protect himself and Cas, he pushed Cas away and tried to make Cas think he was a big jerk, unfortunately that’s not enough to kill love, nothing is, and he just ended up making things way worse. So, maybe that’s something he’s thinking about now in this part of season 7? 

But yeah, there are so many factors to it though, one of them being the year  apart and how they both wanted to be there for each other but were both too pig headed and selfless to call each other. 

Dean definitely feels very guilty that Cas does everything because and for him. This is for many reasons; because he doesn’t feel he deserves it, because he doesn’t like seeing Castiel hurt himself and endanger himself and more recently he didn’t like seeing Cas do bad things (though killing the KKK and Fred Phelps isn’t really bad imo) 

And it is for Dean. He loves Earth and humanity because of Dean. He is the one who opened up this whole can of worms for Cas. It all started because Cas loved Dean. Like when you fall in love and you don’t like a movie or a band until the person you’re in love with makes you listen or watch it from a different perspective and then you love it. Castiel wasn’t interested in humanity or Earth really, he was only interested in doing his job as a solider of the Lord. Until Dean made him see things in a different light. It was through his love for Dean that his love for these other things grew. Not only that but Castiel wants Dean to be happy, and he can only be happy if Earth is safe and humanity is safe. The death of humanity means the death of Dean. Cas knows that’s not what Dean wants; he wants free will, to live, save people and to be with his brother. Castiel does it, all of it, for Dean. It’s so beautiful but so tragic and sad.